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Gualtieri Vs. Rice Takes Center Stage at Sheriff Candidates' Debate

Interim Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri and challengers Everett Rice, Scott Swope and Greg Pound squared off in Tuesday night's debate. But it was Rice and Gualtieri, who stole the show as they vie for the Republican nomination.

 

While there were four candidates participating at Tuesday night's Pinellas County Sheriff debate in Clearwater, much of the event centered on the two men vying for the Republican nomination for sheriff.

Interim Sheriff Bob Gualtieri and former Sheriff Everett Rice traded barbs throughout much of the evening on each other's record, campaign fliers and future issues. 

Democratic nominee Scott Swope was involved in most of the major policy discussions, while write-in candidate Greg Pound was largely ignored after responding to most questions with nearly the same answer. 

Candidates were asked about immigration, open-carry laws, combating pill mills, homelessness, the budget and special interest groups. 

Gualtieri, appointed to his current position by Gov. Rick Scott last year, said during his tenure he has worked to cut the budget while continuing to decrease the crime rate. 

"I've proven that we can [cut the budget] and not affect public safety," Gualtieri said. Facing a significant budget shortfall in 2013, Gualtieri said the department needs to continue to "outsource and look at functional consolidations."

Swope, a former judge, said at the start of the debate that he was the only one at the podium whom people in the room knew for sure would be on the Nov. 6 ballot for Pinellas County Sheriff. 

After either Rice or Gualtieri loses the August primary, Swope asked that the loser's supporters consider him. 

"Think about supporting me in the event that your fella doesn’t [win]," he said. "It's not [about being] a Republican or Democrat, it's about choosing the right man for the job."

Former Sheriff Rice said had he not promised to leave office two terms ago due to term limits, he would still be Pinellas County Sheriff today. 

"Every year, I was the Sheriff, except one, the crime rate went down," he said. "And ever year, I think, I returned money to the county. When I left office, I was totally unblemished and undefeated."

The four candidates touched on myriad issues: 

Immigration

"I don’t think it’s the sheriff's responsibility to get the federal government to do their job," Swope said. "Now if those people are committing crimes, then at that point, the sheriff ought to be the one to do something about it. The kind of immigration that has been overlooked is the immigration in the form of human trafficking."

Rice said the sheriff does not have the authority to deport illegal immigrants. He said he would "bring pressure on the federal government to do their job and that’s what I would do as a sheriff," Rice said. "I don’t think it is as big of a problem in Pinellas County as it is in other areas ... Use whatever political pressure to get the federal government to do its job. "

That comment, however, stirred Gualtieri, who said that contradicts what Rice's mailed fliers said, which is that he would deport illegal immigrants who are in jail. 

"Everett has sent out four direct mail pieces that said 'I will deport illegal aliens from the jail.' Why is he pandering saying, 'I will deport illegal aliens from the jail'? “ Gualtieri said. "[Rice] has no authority to put them on a raft from Tampa Bay and push them south.”

Budget

Write-in candidate Pound said corruption and failing to follow the constitution is the biggest issue with the budget shortfall. 

"I don’t believe we have a budget problem," Pound said. “The root of the problem is the people running the government. It’s out of control.”

Swope said the sheriff's office could save a considerable amount of money if refocused its prioritizing on marijuana policies.

By decriminalizing and issuing citations for marijuana, as opposed to sending people to jail, Swope said the county would save on housing, feeding and processing these individuals while collecting money on the citation. 

"Save the money by not putting them in jail while at the same time generating revenue," Swope said. "This is not a novel idea." 

Swope added that he would enact a policy that would keep those arrested for non-violent misdemeanor offenses out of jail and put them through the system with a notice to appear.

Gualtieri said he would look at ways to outsource services to the private sector and look at functional consolidations. “Outsource where we can,” he said.

Open Carry Laws

The Florida Legislature is considering a law that would permit more leniencies with open carry laws, which would allow more people to carry weapons openly in public places. 

Three candidates, Pound, Rice and Swope, said they were in favor of such a measure. 

Swope, who described himself as an NRA card-carrying Democrat, said studies have shown that states with open carry laws have less crime. 

"I am definitely in favor of the responsible ownership of firearms and protecting the Second Amendment," Swope said. "If people show, prove that they have gun control, if they know how to use the weapon, understand the laws, show a proficient use, then I think they should be allowed to carry it."

Rice said Florida has had an open carry law for nearly 100 years and, "We didn’t have any of the horrible things" that people against the policy said will happen. 

The only candidate who did not support open carry policies is Gualtieri. He said that when he is walking through a grocery store or sitting down to dinner at a restaurant he does not want to have to see guns out in public. 

"I’m not in favor of it," he said. "I don’t want to be in Publix and see three guys walk through the aisle and seeing guns strapped to their hips. We are a civilized society."

Campaign Mailers

Rice and Gualtieri took each other to task over what each candidate perceived as inaccuracies with the fliers. 

Gualtieri said Rice's flier says one thing about immigration, and now he's saying another. 

Rice said Gualtieri’s campaign has been misleading Pinellas residents by saying he has "come up through the ranks."

"He was never promoted to any rank," Rice said. "He never even got promoted ...  and for him to put in this flier, 'up through the ranks,' that’s just a falsehood."

Gualtieri responded by saying he has been a police officer, patrol deputy, general counsel, deputy sheriff and now interim sheriff. 

"That is 'up through the ranks' as far as I am concerned," Gualtieri said. 

Tuesday night's debate was sponsored by Patch, the National Armed Services & Law Enforcement Memorial Museum and Bay News 9. It was held at the Unitarian Universalists of Clearwater Octagon Arts Center. 

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Related Topics: Bob Gualtieri, Everett Rice, Greg Pound, PCSO, Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, Scott Swope, Sheriff's Debate, Sheriff's race, election 2012, and participate

Donna Hughey

8:31 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Everett Rice will win this election

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Tom Sobocinski

11:53 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I am a Democrat, but felt that Gualtieri was the only one that was well prepared for the debate.

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Barbara Chapman

12:25 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Gualtieri is the only one that is qualified. He is up to date on all policies and has first hand knowledge about everything in the Sheriffs Dept. Many changes have been made in the last 20 years, he is privy to them all. His age for me is a big factor also, he is in great health and young enough to handle all the stress that comes with the job.

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Anne Onomous

1:02 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

I'm with you, Barb! Same reasons.

InsiderMyself

1:07 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Swope is just as qualified, but not getting major mention, because he does not have a primary. This is an injustice to voters, and journalists should find another way to make a living, if they think they're doing justice to our system, of government for the people, by the people. Thanks to the Patch for actually doing broad stories on all of the sheriff candidates!

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Anne Onomous

1:27 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

"Insider" your point is well received....I think Mr. Swope will get the attention and consideration though once the Republican primary is out of the way and the focus is on the general election. I think his inclusion in any debate at this juncture is actually to be applauded (and that means Patch too!) but isn't expected while the Republicans narrow down to their candidate for November. Good luck to all.

Jack Sprat

1:41 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Bob Gualtieri is the best choice for Pinellas County Sheriff. He has proven himself up to the job and will continue to improve the dept over the coming years.

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InsiderMyself

4:14 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Gooly likes to be in the social service business with the homeless. That is not a good use of the money for the sherriff dept. while GOOLY CUT THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING OFFICER OUT OF THE BUDGET. You know what? Florida is number one. And this is how he is running things?????

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Michael Fox

4:15 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Thanks for the great coverage! Keep it up. This race is vital!

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Katie Dolac

4:33 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Thanks, Michael! We will do our best!

John Mandujano

8:31 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

I think Swope should have had a more forceful demeanor. Not sure what others are thinking but I thought Rice seemed out of it and Pound was a joke. Gualtieri was the most prepared and benefits greatly by being a de facto incumbent...although I still feel he is susceptible and can still be beaten.

Great job by The Patch.

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Harvey A. Smith

10:02 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

The bottom-line takeaway from the debate after the campaign rhetoric, allegations and accusations were cleared away by Al Ruechel's clever and respectful probing of candidate's positions, came through loud and clear. While Everett Rice's past dedication, experience and passion about being sheriff is applauded by most voters, they realize it's time to move on. He has his generous pension and six-figure retirement bonus so let him continue to support law enforcement from the sidelines.

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Harvey A. Smith

10:06 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012

A fantastic job by all the Patch editors who contributed to the huge success of the largest sheriff campaign event of the year. Over 300 guests crowded into the UUClearwater Octagon Arts Center to witness the final event prior to the crucial August 14 Primary. Gualtieri's endoresement by the Tampa Bay Times this morning was the icing on the cake.

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